ShopRite vs Weis
Just checked the weekly circulars........going to Weis. So sick of ShopRite putting less and less on sale. Its easy enough to compare sales online and save yourself a trip. For example........ShopRite has about 5 items 'on sale' in the pet dept. Weis has about 16! Purina Cat Chow and litter on sale at Weis....Anybody know of any great sales this week they'd like to share? :o)
Every day Weis has bakery items marked down 50%...such a great deal. Some meat is also marked down. Weis also has their own brand of baking chocolate (to melt or put in cookies) and it is nice. Much less stressful to shop there. If Shop Rite has more on sale, I will go to Washington - parking is soooo much easier and you don't have to find the darn quarter. :))
Dec '11
I prefer shopping at shoprite but I agree the parking is terrible!! The fruits and vegetables are 20x fresher in shoprite then weiss. If I am going BIG food shopping we go to shoprite but if I am just getting a few items we go to weiss. It all depends on your preference.
I have been a loyal Shoprite shopper for many years. I do not jump from store to store to hit sales (I just do not have the time) but I needed cat litter a few weeks back and didn't want to deal with the crowd at Shoprite, so I went into Weis and I was shocked when the guy said they open at 6:00a.m. everyday. This alone would be a huge help to me. I haven't had a chance to check prices to see if it would be a benefit for me to switch, but if I could get the shopping done, home, and put away by 7:30a.m. it would be fantastic! With Shopite not open until 8:00 I feel like my morning is shot by the time all is said and done. I know it sounds silly, but when you only have Saturday to fit in a weeks worth of errands every minute counts.
We use to live in MV so went to Weis because it was right there and 80% less crowded !
no use for Weis i get circulars each week from 3 ShopRites...Wegmans,A&P,Stop and Shop,Giant Markets,amongst other local retailers...i find that ShopRite serves my purposes...very well...having shopped several ShopRite locations I do most of my grocery shopping at the Washington NJ location...the Wharton store is very nice also...Phillipsburg is a nice store also...
**disclaimer** there is a 90% chance oldman works for.............drum roll please........................SHOPRITE
Dec '11
Ok I cannot wait to give my opinion on this one. I used to shop at Shop Rite because the prices can be fairly good compared to others. I personally just became too aggravated with the parking and crazy people with carts in each small aisle. Now I am a Weis shopper with some complaints and complements. Their hours are great at Weis opening at 6am and closing at Midnight. I cannot tell you how many times I end up at the grocery store at 9-10pm (due to work hours) and don't have to worry about fighting for parking. They generally have great sales on the items I need as well. Now on to the downside, Make sure to check the expiration date!!! I have had a lot of issues in the past few months with items being expired. The only other major complaint I have is sometimes the produce is not that great, however again that is me going on a Saturday night at 9pm so I can't necessarily fault the store completely. I have been to a shop rite down in Lincoln Park and if our's was anything like theirs I would be a die hard Shop Rite customer because their store has wide aisles, a great selection, and just looks new and fresh.
Love Weis - Civilized Shopping. Only reason I go to Shop-Rite is more or less out of habit and I know where everything is. There are items I use regularly Weis doesn't carry. Still, I love Weis. I think my New Year's Resolution will be to shop there more often and get to know my way around the store. Especially after the last shopping trip in Shop-Rite where a woman flat-out refused to move her cart so I could pass. It was most embarassing for her daughter who tried to get her Mom to move. The Mom just waived her hand at her as if to say, "Leave me alone" and kept right on reviewing the pasta despite my needing to pass. The daughter took it upon herself to yank the cart out of the way. Of course, this isn't Shop-Rite's fault. It just seems more 'n more upsetting to shop there. Too many displays in the aisles don't enhance the grocery shopping experience imo when they impede people being able to pass.
Yes Brad, oldman works for shoprite. I have been watching him post for quite some time. He obiously has a vested interest in that company.
I started going to Weis for things a while back. The only thing I get at shop right is the cold cuts. Weis's cold cuts don't last as long.
I can't stand the Shop Rite Parking lot! I don't care if it is on sale.
theres also a 90 percent chance that I dont go shopping at a supermarket looking to buy reduced merchandise...when I go grocery shopping ...I park at the farthest end of the parking lot...and I shop at the time when the store is not busy...as far as the eternal quarter...for a cart question...did you notice that...you get the quarter returned at the end of your shopping trip...the idea is to get customers to return the carts to the cart corrals...and keep the parking lot neat...and have carts readily available at all times...not to mention cut down on ...bumps and scrapes to cars in the parking lot from loose carts
I really hope someone in the Romano family (Ronetco ShopRite owners) are reading these posts. I am a creature of habit so yes, I do shop at Shop Rite, but avoid Mansfield at all costs. Parking is my #1 complaint, followed by crowded aisles and if they want me to buy things not on my list - well I don't there - in & out asap and always stick to just what I need. I find a much more enjoyable shopping experience at the Byram SR. Also, I recently transferred all my prescriptions to Byram so it's easier to have most of what I need to get in one place. I do run into Weis when I need just a few items and don't want to deal with Mansfield SR's parking situation or to drive the extra couple of miles to Byram, but still I don't consider Weis to be my grocery store.
Everytime i've gone to shoprite i forget the quarter, go back to the car and drive to weis instead.
Maybe I'm a bit confused, but what is so bad about the parking at Shoprite? It's a blacktop lot, just like Weis has. The only difference I see is that there are cars at Shoprite and none at Weis, meaning Weis has overpriced goods and poor turnover of product. There is always easy parking at Shoprite...for those who aren't lazy. I've seen people searching for a spot endlessly while I just head for one of the farther spaces and walk a bit and I get in the store while the other person is still looking for a spot! And I for one appreciate the quarter-carts because it forces people to put the cart where it belongs...saves your car from having a stray rollaway cart run into it.
I agree Weis may have the better newer building, but I suspect most of the bad feelings about shoprite come from the fact that it is busy. If Weis were busy and Shoprite dead, I'm sure everyone would be criticizing Weis.
The parking lot at shoprite has a terrible design..it always has and always will..Whenever they "Fix it" to shoe horn more cars in it just gets worse
Dec '11
αβ,
That's funny - I have done the same thing - forgot the quarter, went back to the car and drove to Weiss or Walmart.
I now try to avoid Shoprite, the parking layout is a mess, and it is too aggravating inside.
RV
the quarter is a BIG problem if you dob;t have one. You either take a cvs/dollar tree cart or a little tikes cart. either way you get the dirty looks... Meat that is cut at shop rite traditionally has a layer of fat that is not visible. Flim flammery I say. while the meat selection at Weis is not as great it is less. I also love Weis hours! We could debate this for hours!
Dec '11
Weis is great for quick run ins.. and they have items that shoprite doesn't have or runs out of.. i like both stores.. but i prefer shoprite (i know the layout!)
Alpha1beta and Reggie Voter - Go to the courtesy desk at SR and ask them for a quarter holder that goes on your key chain. It's free and you'll always have a quarter when you go shopping.
Dec '11
I don't know what goes on it weis but I do know what went on at shoprite all I can tell you people is don't buy anything premade at ShopRite salads fruit cups whole chickens and chicken pieces what they are selling you are things that went out of date the big bowls of salads in the deli counter when they went out of date they would put them in small individual containers to sell fruit cups they would constantly change the date on them and the chickens that they cooked were also at of date the fruit that would be going bad in the produce department the deli department would come over and use it in their fruit cups how do i know I used to do it for them I just got so disgusted with it that I switched to a different department
Dec '11
Weis wins. Parking and access are better. Isles wider, product within reach, hell, I think the lighting might actually be better. You can drive to the far end of the lot an only have to "hit" one traffic light to get onto 57 towards town (who on earth thought the design for the traffic pattern next to the Clearview cinemas was good? the whole idea of having the shopping areas connected by a service drive is excellent but the execution was not all that good).
ShopRite does have a better selectionof certain items and I do agree that you have to watch expiration dates at Weis. However, you can get through the isles and through the check out lines without taking all day; my time is important. ShopRite seems to have taken the tact that they are the only game in town so you have to deal with them.
What I am really suprised by is that the A&P that was were Kohl's is now couldn't make it. That store was better than ShopRite and Weis hands down.
IMHO all ShopRite really has to do is move their entrance to the other corner of the store so that that side of the parking lot by 57 gets more use.... notice I said 'all' they have to do, like it's a simple thing... The shops on the strip might like it better too. One reason I avoid that Hallmark is the parking. Hoofing it is fine in okay weather, but when its crappy out, it's no fun at all.... so, I shop elsewhere...
Trekster,
Good point and there is a door already at the far end of the registers. Matter of fact that might have been the original door. So not that hard.
coffelover wrote -
"shopping trip in Shop-Rite where a woman flat-out refused to move her cart so I could pass."
just grab the cart and pull it out of your way. i hate inconsiderate people.
eperot- I totally agree. Weis parking lot is great because it's always empty. Shop Rite is full because most people prefer to shop there. And yes, I too appreciate the quarter shopping carts. I hate going to Walmart where so many carts are taking up the parking spaces. People are just so freakin lazy! The cart stowers are sometimes two spots away from a left-behind cart. I don't want my car hit with these carts! If I'm doing a big shopping trip, I'll look for a spot near a cart stowaway. If I'm just doing a quick trip, I'll leave the cart in the store and carry out my few bags by hand.
As for food-I don't care for produce from Walmart or Weis, or meat. It just doesn't look fresh or of good quality. I shop at Shop Rite for most things. I only buy things that are on sale. I literally write down prices for everything I put in my cart because I'm on a strict budget. So I really KNOW the prices of things and this helps me when shopping at other stores. I will also do some shopping at Walmart. It all depends on the price for me.
Dec '11
we go all three every week!
get the cheapest stuff at the weiss, then shoperite then walmart.
saves us money each week,
yes it takes planning and time, but we feed ourselves for about 60 bucks a week, not too bad.
the quarter thing is no big deal. since we plan ahead we always check for quarters before we leave for the store.
I leave my quarter in the coffee cup holder but when the kids take it, I have never not found a free cart on the way in. Never.
Never had a rude person in the aisles either, just at check out. But I have issues with close-check-out people, I needs my space, so I blame myself. One ole guy was gonna duke it out with me when I told him to back off the veges; took my Jersey "YO" the wrong way....=>)
In my youth, we had a grocery where instead of having the lost boys aimlessly walking through the trashy parking lot looking for loose carts and easy women (or do I have that backwards), their walkways outside the doors did not allow the carts out except in one place. Instead the whole length was manned by the lot boy who loaded the cars coming through. Parking lot was cleaner, carts were always dry, and you did not have to load yourself, just drive up and drive away home. It was heaven.
I noted this to Shopright since it provided IMHO better service, faster service, better carts, dryer carts and less cost and cart damage for them --- seems like a good deal. But hey, they have never listened me, heck I am just a customer and they can't even make their own receipts add up correctly (check the three discount subtotals against the discount total, they never add up and SR can't explain it.)
I mean really, we are talking about guys who designed a store where extra heat is pumped in during checkout, just where you want to be sweating bullets. Or a deli counter that is so tall that below average height customers (like most women) can't even see the deli person serving them... Or an internet coupon process requiring manager approval giving you not only savings but a few more minutes of extra heat and glares from those in line behind you. Or the funny coupons that require the cashier to not the weight meaning you have to stop and play --- find the pot roast in one of your bags.... Or hide n seek razor blades tucked away like cigarettes and don't even have a picture and prices available so you can at least choose before you purchase. Some brilliant marketers, good thing the prices are low and the produce is pretty fresh.
I was at wal mart last week. Looked at their own bread in a bag and there was a live fly trapped in one bag.I let it out. The Naan bread in a bin near the floor was soaking wet - the bags- I don't know why.
ShopRite, when all is said and done and said again, wins the race IMHO. I could "say again" but the positives and negatives have all been posted above by other posters. Thank you ShopRite for doing all those things you do well; and try to correct those very few you don't. I occasionally shop in Weis; but never in Walmart. It's all personal preference more than anything else.
i hate how shoprite puts the cerial on the end that is on sale with the sale sign but not the correct size that is on sale.
that is how they get you.
Weis for me. Shoprite's aisles are too narrow, the layout is odd, the parking lot is nearly always a nightmare and I find the shoppers there are pretty inconsiderate...almost every aisle I run across a person that won't move their cart on the wrong side of the aisle or just flat out pulls in front of me and stops. I am usually aggravated when I leave there. I'm used to Weis, and it's an easy parking lot. Weis hands down.
Oldman: its the fact that I had to walk back to the car. Its annoying and fairly pointless and i find it sorta rude. Weis has better deals i think anyway.
I'm in favor of Shop-Rite with the .25 fee for carts. I hated the idea at first but actually love it now. No carts to ding my car anymore. The only thing wrong with the parking is the handicap slots. Why they designed them to be located across the front of Shop-Rite, instead of in front of all the other store fronts is beyond me. Having to have used these slots at times I can tell you it was better for me to drop the person off at the entrance and then go get the car to pick them up.
For those of you who are unhappy with the narrow aisles and parking, please take the time to fill out the shopper response forms that are located to your right, along the windows as you are leaving. I will fill them out to praise an employee, ask for them to carry an item or complain about something. If you gie your phone number they will call you about it also.
Most of our complaints about the Shop-Rite parking I really believe are because of the poor driving habits of it's customers. If the store wasn't busy it wouldn't be an issue.
I've always thought that a different exit would be better also, as someone has already suggested.
I will continue to shop at all the places that offer the best quality and prices for what I am looking for. For the most part that would be Shop-Rite for me.
oldred..........that is disgusting and I figured as much.......not sure why these stores don't get caught and fined doing what they do.....as I said in the OP.......these stores make a TON of money and there is no excuse for selling out dated, rotten, food.........other than greed of course. I have noticed more and more rotten produce at shoprite also.......but if you go to SR in chester.......much better produce. So folks, what they are doing is selling the better produce there........why do you think that is? because they know they can get away with it in Mansfield :o) still so loyal? not me
I hate food shopping so I do the Shop on Line with Shop rite in Washington it is so worth the $10.00 I only shop off the circular and then go to past purchase to buy the things you do every week, I like it because there is no in purse buying I have a family of six and spend about $150. weekly and every 5th you don't pay the $10. fee. You just drive up they bring it to your car and load it up and you drive home. They call you if they have any questions. best thing ever. If I need something through out the week I will only go to Weiss due to the craziness at Shop rite in Mansfield
Washingtons produce is great! I only stop in Mansfield when I run out of something. Like today detergent and needed something for dinner. I have used their pick up service and will continue.
I very rarely get annoyed while grocery shopping, just not worth the aggravation to me. I'm probably the person on the wrong side of the aisle, or the one that stops on a dime if there's something I see on a shelf that I might want. If I'm in the way, I respond very well to someone saying "excuse me" or I don't mind if you move my cart so you can get by. I actually talk to people I don't know about a new product or maybe something they're buying. I discuss pets with old people in the cat food aisle and share my story about my sick kitty. I don't mind if they have to check an internet coupon I have (though they very rarely check them), they wouldn't have to do that if there weren't so many scammers out there. Life is just too damned short to be pissed off at everything, especially grocery shopping. I consider myself very lucky that I have the money to buy groceries and have so many choices on what to buy. If shopping really stresses you out, Weis is probably a much better option.
@ACL76..too bad you're not trying to get a cart when I'm there. I will always give a quarter to someone who's stuck trying to get a cart and doesn't have the coveted quarter. If you're fumbling for a quarter and a little old lady tries to give you one and tells you to pass it on, it might be me, LOL.
Bessie: I'm with you. Grocery shopping can be Hell or not, depending on my attitude. I take my time, give a smile to other shoppers and go on my way. There are plenty of people in this world who would gladly trade places with us.
Bessie, I want to nominate your post as one of the BEST posts of 2011. Hope Russ Long reads it on the air on 1/3/2012
I always thought appy was short for appetizer..but it's the deli department, not really sure now.
I totally believe oldred.......what reason would he have to make this stuff up? I am more suspicious of the motives of those that have nothing but high praises for a place that clearly does not deserve it.....no place does.......oldred is not the only employee that has told the 'behind the scenes' truth about shoprite......was told by a butcher how their pricier meat is so 'red'......and it wasnt because it was a leaner cut either....I hope more people expose the truth.........
its short for Appetizer or Delicatessen Dept...and I still dont buy oldreds comments...not true...not a shred of truth to his claims...there is nothing...to expose...maybe oldred has an ax to grind about his employment with ShopRite
I agree with Bessie....although I do get aggrivated when people refuse to help the cashier bag the groceries. It just goes so much quicker when you help out. I'll be that guy who says "I brought my own bags and I'll bag for you". Always makes the cashier delighted and friendly.
I agree with Bessie life is to short to stress over food shopping. I agree with her just relax and stop and smell the roses everyone has to do the same thing so why make it so difficult weather you go to Shop rite , Weiss or do your weekly shopping on line relax and smile as you are doing it and before you know it the task has been completed and your happy
In some states..they allow baggers to work for tips..they bag your groceries..and get this.. wheel them out to your car and place them in your trunk..much better solution than the 25 cent cart nonsense
Dec '11
supermarkets here bag your groceries,,,and they can and will wheel your purchases out to your car...employees at ShopRite are not allowed to accept tips...the whole issue over quarters and shopping carts...enough already...
Brad, I am not sure I understand the math. You prefer to tip a person a few dollars than have to use a quarter. Last I checked a quarter that you get back is a much cheaper deal then tip a guy every time I buy groceries. The walk to the car return is not all that far. This is why so many copanies have a hard time listening to suggestions as no matter what some one will still complain. and since most peoples complaints for shop rite are it is so busy and the parking lot so full they must do something right. I do not work there never did and really don't care where any one else goes just funny to hear the complaints and little things that can get people worked up.
Making u put a quarter in a shopping cart is just so cheap...they just don't want to hire more employees..
Dec '11
oldred swears he's telling the truth. oldman swears *he's* telling the truth and oldred is lying. Very interesting.
Quarter in the cart is to deter "that sort of person" from stealing it. Although a quarter isn't much of a deterrent.....
Bug2 - They already have a number of employees that have to go out and move the carts from the "corrals" back to the front of the store. Yet did you notice at Weis the carts are all returned to the corrals in neat parking lot. And the carts are readily available at all times without bumps and scrapes to cars without a single quarter having to be involved??
I agree with acl76 - it's not the quarter at all, I'll leave the quarter for all I care. It's the remembering and the stuck feeling if you forget. Do I grab a little basket and buy less than I wanted? Do I fumble to see if I've got a dollar because I pay on a credit card and don't carry cash? And even then, go inside, come back out again? It's the hassle factor when it's totally unnecessary. They've got attendants regular in the lot doing a good job - they already spend enough resources there that could easily clean up the parking lot without needed the quarters. Look at Weis vs. Walmart. It's true the Walmart carts are often out of place and Weis are not. Why? One has attendants paying attention to it, and the other lets it go more than they should. Nothing to do with collecting a quarter.
Bessie - And I'll also agree it's too bad you aren't there for acl76. Or anyone else for that matter. We all need more stressfree lives. And artificial supermarket wars does no one any good. There are reasons to shop at any of the local places each with their own set of pluses and minuses. I'm lucky to be flexible enough to avoid big lines and the smash up derby. But I also completely understand anyone else needing to go somewhere else.
I love Weis.... I seem to save a lot more there with there sales. I also never stand in a long line ever.
Shop rite is a great place for fresh food at a great price, all of weis's items are out of date most of the time. I also love the kid that makes the announcements there, I don't have an issue with the parking and ally is appetizing because that the kind of food there
Last 3 times I've been to (Mansfield) Shoprite, I swore never to go back! Not a problem with the carts and quarters, but with the shoppers in general, who are in such a hurray and rather rude...also, I have never seen so many electric carts in use in any other store! The clincher has been the check out time though. I think I spent 10-15 minutes in line, on Tuesdays and Wednesdays, at about 2pm, which I thought would be a good, low traffic time to shop. Wrong!
Washington Shoprite is a bit better, but I'll take Weis over Shoprite anyday. Seafood is really fresh there too.
They way to get Shoprite management to listen is to explain it in a matter they can understand. Find a suggestion that would increase profits while also please customers. Maybe they could sell premimum passes to select cash registers or let "Gold Card" members shop an hour before the store opens to regular people. They could also have a seperate entrance for perferred customers that are willing to pay an extra $50 a month for the priviledge
Dec '11
All that I'll say is I hate the perpetual crowds at shop rite......
....but I hate expired items and crappy produce worse!
Dec '11
Bug2...wow a rocket scientist...how smart... you should work at Disneyworld...as far as oldred...the guy is wrong...and spreading falsehoods on this thread...there is no truth to his statements...and more interesting that I am not the only person to notice out of date products at Weis ...
To me, the reason that the parking stinks at Shoprite is because... there's not ENOUGH of it! They need a bigger parking lot, especially since they share it with all the other stores there. It drives me nuts, but at the end of the day, I do prefer Shoprite, because I think the prices are much better.
by the way...the ShopRite Can Can sale starts next week...people come for that sale as far from Kentucky...to stock up... enjoy the video...I understand its a little old http://youtu.be/ve3RjIEkquE
Shoprite is a chain and can't do gold cards or anything. Just because one shoprite is a charlie foxtrot doesn't mean the rest of them are. Where i use to live they were great.
Silence do good.....do you really like that kid....he has a career in voice overs for sure, but I don't want to hear it when shopping for food. Seems like a nice kid, but his mgmt needs to limit his exposure to the public. I think they are using him. He should ask for a raise.
shoprite is crowded because they are the best in price and selection.
i love the mansfiled shoprite, but hate the parking.
it is stil worht it to go there.
most of the shoprites i have been in have way more customers than weiss or a&p.
this says something. that's why wakefern foods is a strong company in a weak economy
thw other guys in this space are playing catch up and they have a long way to go.
I'll ask this question here, although it probably should be it's own thread. In any parking lot in shopping centers, how is it determined how many handicapped spaces are needed? It seems to me that there is a need for more handicapped spaces at the Mansfield SR , and the other stores in the strip mall, than are available.
the young guy that does the 'live announcements' does have a good voice but also gets annoying when he is standing right next to you with his little wireless mic.........I have a theory......he looks an awful lot like one of the managers there........nepotism? I don't know the managers name but just check 'the wall'
oldman~ why are you so sure oldred is lying? I believe him and know for a fact from other SR employees its true.........does SR management REALLY think that all the employees are going to keep their dirty little secrets?
for the last time...Crazy Cat Lady...there are no secrets...dirty or otherwise...and now you bring up the subject of nepotism...whats next...are you going to tell me that Batboy from The Weekly World News works at ShopRite...
@CrazyCatLady..I know the family of that boy you mention and his father, mother, aunts or uncles, have nothing to do with Shoprite. Next time your in Shop Rite why don't you ask him if his father is the manager. He's a very nice young man that happens to be enthusiastic about his job, I just hope Shop Rite is paying him for all the selling he does for the store.
yes oldman Batboy does work at SR and his uncle does too ;o) and trust me there are secrets....for the last time
Bessie, I doubt they pay anybody what they are worth........and I do believe his pic will be on that manager wall someday......now that I think of it, family members can't work at the same location....forgot about that
I don't know what goes on in Shoprite, but when I worked for the A&P the produce manager would insist on me using the "oldest" produce when I made up the bowls for the salad bar.
I wouldnt say it was bad, but def. items I wouldnt have chosen to purchase.
As far as the premade salads, at the end of the day we would have to make up the bowls for the next morning. The newest went on the bottom, and what was left over from the day before went on the top. I would have prefered all new, but it's all about the money.
I NEVER buy anything that is premade. NO WAY< NO HOW!
Slade - It depends on the number of parking spots in the lot - see page 3 of this link for the regulations in NJ - http://www.state.nj.us/humanservices/dds/documents/DDS_HandicappedPkg.pdf
Dec '11
When I don't have a quarter, I simply take the "racecar" kids cart with the big seats. When someone asks me where the kids are, I simply reply, "they were just here when I was in produce."
oldman
You can believe oldred or not, but I can tell you that much of what he stated does happen in grocery stores across the U.S., or at least the ones I worked in....
For example, those pre-cubed cheese trays you get are made using cheese bricks from the dairy and deli department that had visible mold growing on them. Don't worry, the moldy part is cut away and what remains is perfectly edible. Any fruit that has bad spots and just won't be chosen by customers are used for the fruit salads, again after trimming off the bad or rotten part. Whole chickens and other product from the meat department that are out of date will be used for any pre-cooked foods in the deli department. Why, because most perishable food items are listed with a sell-by date, not a use-by date, and are perfectly good for a few days after.
We all know why stores do this, it is to sell as much of the product they purchase from distributors that they can and to throw out the absolute minimum in waste.
Dec '11
Ok, which is worse: Parking Lot for Shoprite OR HHS?
Vote for
1 Layout and Design
2. Congestion
3. Parkers Etiquete and Attitude
Extra Credit for Best Parking Lot Story
@Mistergoogle...you have truly given me the laugh of the year..I almost spit my coffee out on that one...good one!
MisterG - You need another category - Best HL thread related to the lot. The HHS parking lot had "junk in the trunk" and the Shoprite parking lot had the parking spots for the pregnant women so to me it's a tie. :):)
Dec '11
1. Layout and Design - by far the worst is Stroudburg PA Shoprite where it's not even on the right side of the store
2. Congestion - again Stroudsburg PA Shoprite where the store is busier and there is even less parking
3. Parkers Etiquete and Attitude - not even close - Stroudsburg PA Shoprite again where the off roaders roll down their windows 8 feet above ground to have a half hour conversation overtop the dual exhausts. And then park in the pregnant spot.
As for stories, some years ago when my cousin was a bagger in Stroudsburg, he had a silver haired lady shake two persimmons and a mango at him. Irate produce shopper, or sexual harassment - you chose...
Brad - It's "If you think you got it bad, you don't know how good it is in Hackettstown Life". ;-)
I have shopped at Byram SR since it opened. It's a very nice, well planned out store. It has a good selection of organic produce, and carries most any product I could want. The staff is friendly, and helpful. The prices are ok, compared to most other chain supermarkets, and I look for sales. The parking lot, can be busy, at times, but is fine in general. Once one gets used to the "quarter" necessary to get a cart, it is really a no brainer to keep a couple in your change slot in the car. (This does prevent carts from being rudely left in parking places, and runaway carts hitting your car.) P.S. Another plus.... a DD has opened in the lobby!!
oldred "thay" do... what store do work in names, dates and numbers ...because you are not telling the truth and you know it...you started this whole issue about supposed "secrets"...put up or shut up...and your allegations and falsehoods are damaging the reputation of a local business ... r-man...obviously you have never heard of culling...bruised or damaged fruit is sent to a produce compost bin...and not made into salads...the cheese cubes are not made from moldy cheese...the rotisserie chickens are not out of date they are fresh...and are never second hand from the meat department...and by the way the prepared salads are fresh also...and the salads and rotisserie chickens sell very well...despite oldreds allegations... by the way ShopRite has a very good hoagie sandwich program...too...they sell very well... in closing...if you knew how much perishable product that a ShopRite disposes of because it is near the expiration date you would be shocked...
Had to pick up a few things today....went to Weis to get it...folks were smiling not smashing into displays, cashier's friendly and helping bag. One item was on sale at SR and could not over pay by 100% so I had my dtr drop me off at SR...as soon as I got in the door I was bumped by customer, everyone was pushing around. Got to the self check express with my three items and someone cut me off because I was not moving fast enough for them (was looking for the stupid key chain thing). Guess that is the difference.
Dec '11
oldred vs oldman.........hmmmm....I do lean towards oldred and I think the customers are in such a bad mood because they are being ripped off and can't do much about it.......that's the general feeling of most these days.......being sucked dry but what can we do? bottom line is SR makes MILLIONS and there is no justification for the ridiculous rise in prices........so yes, we should EXPECT fresh food for the prices they charge......do we get it? not so much.......I can't count how many times I've seen brown lettuce in the bagged salads..........I give as little of my hard earned money as I can to SR......
oldred has done nothing to prove his allegations...so go on and believe him...and believe you are being ripped off...maybe why thats why you are Crazy Cat Lady...why dont you and oldred hook up...you have a lot in common...oh by the way Weis makes millions too...look them up
Sorry oldman, you must not have read my post very closely as I made sure to point out the difference between expiration and sell-by dates. You may believe what I stated is falsehood, but I know what duties I performed at the three different stores I worked in and can assure you these practices did and do occur daily.
Dec '11
r-man...I dont care where you worked...you have made assumptions...about local supermarkets...and added more falsehoods to this thread...so you add more doubt to this thread...and your ASSumptions..dont make this thread any better...if you dont know the business...maybe you should go back to the store "or three you worked at " that you claim you dealt with and deal with their freshness issues...and stop casting doubt on a local business...I have never seen a more deranged thread than this one...all the wackos come out...Happy Deranged Year
This is how most food stores work department managers are only allowed to have a certain amount of spoilage let's just say 2% a week well if a department manager is having 6% spoilage week in and week out they won't be a department manager very long so it's in the managers best interest to keep the spoilage low and had a you do that you changed dates I'm not saying that the food store owner is doing it it's there department managers that do it and by the way another way food stores make money is they sell prime locations in the aisles to the highest bidder for instance if you see say M&Ms at eye level in the candy aisle you know they were the high bidder in that store they pay stores like ShopRite to put their candy at eye level
Jan '12
oldman,
I am not casting doubt on anything or any local chain. I am just explaining how the supermarket industry reduces waste. You would have us believe that a single rotten potato will condemn the whole bag or that a bad spot on an apple will have someone chucking the whole apple into the compost bin. A bad spot on a piece of fruit which makes it undesirable to a customer doesn't make it compost worthy, just as a mold on a corner of a brick of cheese does not ruin the rest of the cheese in the package. A simple swipe of a knife will remove the offensive portion, which is then chucked into the compost bin, and the rest can be used in a different product: deli trays, pies, salads, etc.
As my final comment here, perhaps you would like to show some respect to others and their experiences and not be so adamant (remember "he who protests the loudest...."). oldred and I are merely saying that our experiences in the industry have shown it is the practice to reuse any portion of anything that still has value.
Jan '12
Oldman.............all your name calling just ruines any validity to your posts.
You are asking oldred to prove what he is saying, but I don't see you proving anything????
I know first hand that older produce is used in making any pre-made items. What oldred is saying is true, the department managers want to see that used first.
In the fall, when the apple trees drop the fruit, most of my apples have a bruise or two. If I tried to sell them, people wouldn't want to pay for bruised fruit. I wash them, cut out the bruised sections and make applesauce. As fruit ripens it gets sweeter. I don't have to add sugar, and it is much more flavorful than what you get in a jar of Motts.
Both stores have their good and bad points.
@r-man..Imagine what we would be paying for groceries if the consumer had to absorb the cost of throwing out the whole pepper or pineapple, when there was one spot on it that wasn't good? Not to mention that the waste of good food would be shameful. I do hope that no store is putting expired meat or fish into pre made foods and would hope that if they were, there would be fines for them. It should be the practice to use what's still good. Just my thoughts on it.
I guess you could say good news, bad news for fruit done this way.
Good News: it is ripe and should be very tastey
Bad News: better eat it quick
For the broiled chickens or anything cooked however, while it makes sense, sure gives one pause to purchase such an item at a premium when there might be a bit of a roll of the dice on freshness.
Depends on how the store monitors these items as they are put on the shelf and after they are put on the shelf.
Reminds me of my resturant days when we used potato whitening to keep the lettuce green in the salad bar. Did it to remove slght stains and improve the overall appearance. Nothing wrong, just food starch like on your BKing or MickyD fries, but... as long as the lettuce was fresh -- OK. But if it became "unfresh," it would still be as green as day one and the customer wouldn't know until a few hours later... :>0~~~
Hands down the Mansfield SR is the WORST one in this area... I''m in store quite frequently (3-4 times per week) - Home Ec teacher. I usually try to shop at the Wharton SR or Byram.... but many times go to West Orange, Flemington or Netcong SR - so very familiar with all these stores.
Mansfiield: I find they are ALWAYS out of the specials and staff never have any answers. They have a clerk/customer service guy who has a "nails on chalkboard" type voice and they let him make announcements... GRRR!!! Parking is an issue... too many stores in plaza and not enough spaces/weird layout... but that's the plaza owners deal..not SR. I'm a former SR employee ("back in the day" as they say and in the Princeton area), so loyal to them....just hate the management of Mansfield... but sometimes I'm "stuck" and have to frequent them to get the specials... if they have them left.
Weis is OK.... prices are so-so. If I just need a few items, I'll go there. A&P is similiar... but more expensive than Weis/SR.
I wish we had a Wegman's or Whole Foods nearby. I usually do the Whole Foods in West Orange, but have to go to Princeton for Wegmans.
@Shelley..I shop at Shop Rite and do go to Mansfield when I have no other choice (at least my idea of no other choice. I'm not a fan of Mansfield Shoprite and like Byram or Washington much better. I find Mansfield stock never changes, takes a lot of get anything new there. I do a lot of my grocery shopping at Wegmans in Nazareth, a quick 35-40 minutes away. There are a lot of other stores up there so I just incorporate food shopping into my trip up there. Just recently went to Whole Foods for the first time, way out of my price range to shop there and don't know how one could afford to do all their shopping there. Not in my world for sure. It was a very interesting store though.
Wow! I must shop at Shop Rite on the "good" days. I remember my quarter & if i forget i walk the minute or so to the courtesy desk & exchange money for it. I drive up a aisle & if there is not a spot, I go a lane or two over and get one, again a minute walk into the store. Do not get bent out of shape if its raining, its only water. Find the vast majority of people that work there friendly & helpful. Every so often they are out of a special & I get a rain check & try to remember to use it the next time. They play good music! Been shopping there over 20 yrs & have seen lots of changes. Suppose we are fortunate to have a few grocery stores in the area, so people can choose. Life is to short to get frustrated over a quarter or parking several rows from the entrance. Yikes!
@vicinity, I have the same feeling as you about it, I go to other stores to see what I'm missing, LOL. My daughter and I would like to start a blog about all the grocery stores we shop at (and I think we've been to them all), but Shop Rite gets a lot of my money. I do like Wegmans though for variety and some great meat prices. But like you, I have my quarter, usually find a space without too much of a problem (I've actually started taking whatever space is available and get the exercise walking a bit further (I could use it, LOL), find most of the staff very polite and nice and must really hit it on a good day because very rarely do I encounter all the rudeness going on. Like you, I've been shopping there for the same amount of time and the big plus, their photo machines always work.
i have seen the cart return guys help out those who don't have a quarter, they just release a cart form the stack with a small tool they have on them and let the customer take the cart into the store, just ask them, they will do it gladly.
i have also seen many customers just hand over their just emptied carts to somebody getting out of their car without even worrying about getting their own quarter back.
the great majority of employees at the Mansfield shoprite are great people, since we are there every week and been going for decades now, we have made a point of being friends with them on a first name basis, after all, we all have to live together, why not do what we can to make it more pleasant for everyone concerned?
prices are better there, period, that's why it's so crowded, smart shoppers know how to save money.
Wow, what a hot topic, supermarkets!! We are lucky to have so many choices, and to have such abundance of food. It is all in the attitude. I am a loyal SR Byram shopper for many years. i actually enjoy the experience, and I never thought that I would say that.
Very shopper friendly, plenty of sales, and simple parking lot. Waterloo Road is better than all the traffic lights in Hackettstown and Mansfield. Until I hear of a Trader Joe's, or a Wegman;s, I will continue to go to Byram. We have a second home in Ocean County and we go to Stop and Shop, a huge section on all things organic, natural. So, no complaints here! I just make sure that I allow myself plenty of time for the whole routine. I also have to lug my bags 60 paces and a flight of stairs, so I allot myself 2 hours. Glad to have the money to pay for the grocery bill. Happy New Year, everybody!! Nice to meet you all on HF!
My daughter worked appy at ShopRite for over a year and a lot of what r-man says is true of what she had to do. Nothing was actually bad, but they tried hard not to waste. If the rotisserie chicken didn't sell, it went into chicken salad. She did a lot of the packaged specialty salads and some of the stuff in those salads came from items that could no longer be sold. Like I said, it wasn't bad, but it was old and getting older. And yes, I'm talking about the Mansfield ShopRite less than two years ago.
@Jude49..great post..I was just in "your Shoprite" the other day for a very quick stop and surprised to see Dunkin Donuts there, as well as a bit of remodeling at the Self Service checkouts. Daughter also discovered that Skylands Bank is in there with great Saturday and Sunday hours. Byram Shop Rite may become our new local store in 2012. My only problem is I hate coming down Waterloo Rd in the dark, so I find myself avoiding it on my way home from work.
just when I thought there could be no more stupidity...on this thread along comes awakeagain...with the same old allegations and falsehoods...its time to turn this thread into I HATE SHOPRITE...and say the stores rip the consumers off and sell crap...so now that you have ripped apart ShopRite...what other local business do you care to dissect...and make up allegations and falsehoods about...step up...
Been a longtime "Shopriter" both in South Jersey and here. Happy for the most part until this week. Always had super sale Wed thru Sun. This week they have sale Sun/Wed and Can can sale Thurs/Sat That means a double trip.
Its not (just) Shoprite..the entire industry like to make as much profit as possible with as little waste they can get away with
Jan '12
My only thought is if things were truly being made with bad items, more people would be sick and the health department would be all over the place...that is unless the health department is being paid off by the store. I'm sure there will theories on that too. Personally, I tend to stay away from all that deli case premade food but that's just my preference. I totally get using things that can be saved, if only for part of them. It would just be too wasteful to toss everything. I can't imagine anyplace running like that. I don't see it as being much different restaurants that take meats from one day and turn them into soup or something else the next day. I wish someone from the health department posted here and could shed some light on what's allowed.
Bessie: Maybe Russ Long can find someone from the Health Department for his HL segment.
I was just in the Byram ShopRite a couple of days ago too, and saw that they'd changed things a bit. And a DD in there is such a plus! The ShopRite in Wharton has had one for quite a while. Killing two birds with one stone, for me anyway. I know this isn't what the thread is about, but I had to share :)
If they were making food on the sell by date they were doing the right thing. That is sell by not consume by date. By preparing the food that day you save a consumer from purchasing it off the shelf where as you would anticipate storing it for a period of time in your fridge or pantry. If they prepare it it is to be consumed that day. As others said if this was an issue there would be a long line at the hospital of food poising victims. As eveyrone stated the place is always busy so alot of people would be sick eating bad food week after week.
everything is clean and fresh and prepared daily...theres no second hand food anywhere...so the people who have animosity towards ShopRite...can go complain about something else...somewhere else
I do prefer shop rite but the one in Mansfield annoyed me tonight. They closed at 7 for the " holiday". How many days are you gonna stretch it out. You closed at 7 Saturday and Sunday. Companies that were closed today were to observe a holiday. What did closing at 7 accomplish for anyone. Employees did not get a day off and it is not a holiday to let people get home early for. It was a good way to annoy a customer .
oldman you crack me up.......if you don't agree with a post its 'stupid' and now you tell people that express their opinion to 'go elsewhere' would love to know your connection with SR......but really don't care. People can give their opinion , if YOU dont like it you have the CHOICE to not read this thread.........that's old freedom of speech for ya
Crazy Cat Lady...you gave yourself the right name for this forum ..as far as freedom of speech...and opinions...you cross the line when you write falsehoods and accusations...and spread rumors...and allegations about a local business...you should be ashamed about the statements you have made on this forum...and the distrust you have spread...what other businesses do you hate...I would like to see your other allegations...and you must have many...enjoy http://youtu.be/9az6MMNZJl8
I just had a post about this exact thing. oldman how is it that what you say is a sure stamp of truth . I do not know who is right and I do like shop rite but that does not mean I am ignorant and think that they are a perfect company. I am sure they at one point or another had a few bad employees or left a spill uncleaned but hopefully for the most part are a solid company and made corrective steps when stuff does occur.. But what makes you the authority to tell everyone else that no way no how any of this ever happens. For all I know either one of you is right but to attack people is not right. If i start a rumor that says every employee at shop rite is the best and every policy they make is wonderful I am just as bad as saying everyone is bad. There is no such thing as a company with 100% perfect employees and products.
Personally, I'm a cashier at Shop Rite and the only problem I see their is how rude the customers are to everyone. Almost everyone acts like the people around them should bend over backwards for them. How do any of you like it when you are trying your absolute best and someone without a cause is just ignorent, rude, and insensitive? Or how would you like it if you were bagging someones groceries and they tell you "No, not that bag, don't put that there..." or you give someone there bagged groceries and they go through them and huff and puff and fix it... than bag it yourself if little things are going to bother you. Don't stand their and roll eyes, complain, gawk, etc. when you are watching someone do something you don't like. Help. I think people need to realize that life doesn't always revolve around them and their are going to be things you do not like... GET OVER IT! The people at Shop Rite do the best they can to make it a perfect environment for those who shop there and those who disagree with how things flow or work shouldn't shop at this location if all they are going to do is complain! Most of the people that commented on this are grown adults and need to stop complaining over simple things like parking layouts and a quarter! Like seriously, their are people starving in third world countries that don't even have water or food and we complain about parking... they have to walk about 2 hours just to get dirty water we wouldn't even let our dogs drink. Patience will take you far in life, people grow up... Like I hear adults talk about how corrupt and bad the youngins futures will be because of laziness and what not... It is quite apparent adults have the same issues...
* The only thing I agree with that anyone has mentioned are sale prices... if you see something cheaper somewhere else buy it their don't bash!
JDEM
If you are going to let something as simple as closing at seven bother you than you need to sit back and relax.... The Cashiers needed a night off early... Try dealing with thousands of people that are cranky for small things like that! I'm not bashing anyone and there opinions but really... Their are people in highschool, college, trying to put food on the table for their little ones, that maybe don't want to work until 10:30 every night!!! Give us a break.
Also JDEM, January 2nd the night we closed at 7pm. Was a federal Holiday. Banks were closed, post offices, government building, etc... We shouldn't even have been open. But just thought I'd make that a little more clear! Just be patient... would you like it if someone got mad at you for something you couldn't control? You do realize we don't control the we close... right?
Banks and such were closed Mondy as Sunday is not a normal business day for them so they observed it then. Sunday is a normal business day for retail. And the early closing time was observed for 3 days.
Hey secret person...the majority of us don't get 3 days to observe a holiday and get off early. In fact many of us (myself included) worked a normal day and didn't get the day off at all. So YOU need to relax...or get a new job.
Jan '12
To add not that it was you secret person but may be. Many people that complain or roll there eyes at a cashiers bagging is for common sense mistakes.Like when you put eggs at the bottom of the bag and stack produce or other heavy items on top. Or a nice hot rottiserie chicken on top of sliced cheese. These are the things that frustrate customers as it was common sense the customer expects. Also carefull what you hope for there are already self check out lines . Telling customers to do it your self eliminates paying jobs, attitudes like that are what lead to such inovations. Some times it is just a grumpy customer, other times it may just be a good learning experience to get better at your job.
Actually quite a few people I know had off a full ten days between Christmas and New Year's and they are not teachers either. They were all complaining on their FB status updates about having to go back to work after 10 days off!! They do work in private sector jobs. Must be nice. In the meantime, other grocery stores in the area remained open normal business hours this past weekend including Monday. SR was the only one closing early I am aware of. I guess they can afford to. The Flanders store shut down by six on Monday. Retail is the type of job where you would have to be working on holidays and such. That is just how it is. I am sure there are plenty of workers that can cover the schedule to spread out the day so all the tired and stressed out cashiers can take turns. Since SR is privately owned, it is a matter of choice for them to close if they want to.
Secret Person, you are right though I would not want to deal with how rude people are to the cashiers. I feel bad for them in that respect. I have seen people talk down to them and take out their anger on them. There are also cashiers out there that basically should not be in customer service to begin with and are damaging to the store's business. As with most things it goes both ways. Which is why people are getting disturbed with Oldman's stance on his SR. There is good and bad with any store.
I worked in a factory when I was in high school. We closed from our Christmas party until after New Years. We got a BONUS, it was our pay for those 2 weeks we were off.
Nice perk but I hated working in a factory.
The only reason Shoprite would have closed early is because they had to pay time and a 1/2 to their cashiers and it would have been unprofitable to stay open...weis is nonunion and did not have the same issue
Jan '12
There are plenty of union shop rites that were open. Not reduced hours on monday. Most retail stores such as grocery stores use part timers for those days and give the needed full timers there day.
JDEM - I really don't understand your complaint about the shorter hours on Sat., Sun. and Monday at SR. They clearly posted them in advance and as you observed there were other stores open. So it's not like you couldn't buy food if you hadn't planned on shopping within the open hours that they did have.
Jan '12
From my personal post 5 days ago plus an expansion thereto: Thank you ShopRite for doing all those things you do well; and try to correct those very few you don't. I occasionally shop in Weis; but never in Walmart. It's all personal preference more than anything else. I'm not sure why this is such a hot topic ... we all have Supermarket choices, and we can all make our personal decisions as to which Supermarket to give our business or to which combination of Supermarkets. Our arms are not twisted to go one place or the other under penalty of something terrible happening to us (or me.) My guess is that All Supermarkets practice the same methods in reference to what happens to fruits, vegetables, roasted chickens, etc. I, personally, do not know of anybody who has gotten sick eating packaged fruits and veggies or chicken salad or or or. I look at this thread every other day or so for its entertainment value. To me, it's not informative regarding our Supermarkets and/or their practices. Many HL threads DO contain valuable informative information; this one does not (IMHO.)
BLDS, the point of the post was entitled Shop rite vs Weis , well the hours were a downfall for Shoprite. It does not bring my world an end , as you said there are other places to go but the point to the post was to compare and in this manor Shop rite came up short.
I would love to see a Wegmans open somewhere in Hackettstown. Their Chocolate Cream pie is to die for.
I love this...after all I explained...Secret Person...{Thank You}...tries to explain to the people here who have nothing but animosity, complaints and doubts...and gets a similar reception...enjoy yourselves...
So if I follow correctly OLDMAN your stance is that Shoprite has created the first perfect company that has never done a thing wrong and has the most amazing HR department that has been able to hire only the perfect people of the world. Now that is impressive.
Oldman..weren't you the one who maligned Shoprite management? Something along the line calling them drug crazed bullies who harassed there employees to no end?
Jan '12
JDEM, LOL!! and you are right......the original 'intent' of the post (since I started this bloodbath) was to yes compare the 2 stores (I was venting) and then the 2nd part (totally overlooked) was so maybe start a thread where people could post great current sales anywhere........so we would all be aware and 'maybe' save money :o)
Crazy Cat Lady - If that indeed was your intent of starting the thread you might want to know that multiple previous threads have been started where people have posted great current sales.
For instance - http://www.hackettstownlife.com/forum/341009#t341345
You just had to use the search function.
Jan '12
wow thanks for the info BLD2! ......I look at this website everyday and never saw a thread about THAT :o)
About 20 years ago I was called by Shop Rite and asked if I would like to participate in a consumer's forum being held at the store one evening a week for 5 consecutive weeks. I agreed and expected to attend one or two since I expected it to be boring. After all.... what could they possibly do for 5 weeks. Well to my surprise, it was extremely interesting. We were a group of about 20 people, both men and women. We learned the history of the store and I for one was surprised to learn it was the Romano family who started the Shop Rite franchise. It was started in the Netcong store and expanded from there. We did taste tests with Shop Rite products vs. name brands (not knowing which was which) and in almost all cases, the Shop Rite products were the winners. For example, pineapple juice and other pineapple products. We were given S.R. and Dole. S.R.'s is 100% Hawaiian pineapple, Dole's is not.
We were also told that the Bureau of Weights and Measures comes unannounced at least once a week to check their scales and make sure they are accurate. They are also visited regularly by the Health Dept. to check for cleanliness, freshness and storage of the food. We were given their reports for the previous 6 months and they were all rated with the highest rating possible. There was an "acceptable" rating, but Shop Rite always got the highest which if I remember correctly, was "outstanding".
That is not to say that you will never get a bad piece of meat from S.R. It's happened to me, but they stand by their policy that if that happens and you have your register receipt, you get double your money back. This policy only applies to fresh foods that are spoiled.
I found this forum to be very interesting and learned a lot about Shop Rite and quite frankly, it is basically the only place I shop. I know it is clean and they do their very best to ensure their customers get the highest quality in their food purchases. I too do get annoyed with some incidents in the store, but most times it is with the public, not the store.
There are long time employees working there during the day, so it can't be too bad a place to work. In the evenings and weekends there are a lot of high school kids working to get some spending money and are sometimes not too efficient or friendly. But overall, I think Shop Rite has the highest quality for the price and is a clean, well maintained store.
But if it is important to you to not have to fight the crowds, then Weiss, Walmart or the A&P is the place to go. Personally, I need to get the best I can for my dollar. I'm sure these other stores get at least an "acceptable" rating, or they wouldn't be allowed to be in business.
i hate going to walmart too. They have two or three lines open you wait forever, and then you get charged more then the price on the yellow item tag. It happens all the time. I went there for chacolate Milk and they Charge more then what their little yellow sign said.. you really have to watch there.
The Romano family did not start ShopRite...they joined the Wakefern Food Corporation in the mid 1950s...they operate ShopRites in the northwest NJ area... the ShopRite name had been in place and used since 1951 by members of Wakefern Food Corporation......Wakefern Food Corporation was founded in 1947...by Lou Weiss,Sam and Al Aidekman,Abe Kesselman,and Dave Fern...they used the initials from their names...and Wakefern ...was the result...I have family members who knew and worked some of the founders of Wakefern...they were good people who wanted to own their businesses and be able to compete against the established chain stores of the day such as A&P...and Acme...etc...heres an early Shop-Rite ad
oldman, do you think I could print that circular and bring it to SR and demand those prices? LOL. Boy, would that be great! That's for the history.
I can't dispute what you have posted oldman. I can only tell you what was told to us at that consumer's forum. They explicitly told us that it was the parents of the current Romano brothers who opened a food store in the current Netcong location. They then had the idea to get together with other grocery stores owners in the area and buy their products in bulk at a lower price. They then expanded and opened other stores and that is how the Shop Rite stores got their start. I cannot verify that story, it's just what we were told. I forget what they said about how Wakefern entered the mix.
oldman is correct about wakefern as far as I know. and netcongs orig location was about a half mile west of its current location at the Y in the road. I cant remember whats in there now maybe a law office or lighting store IDK? But you gotta like the fact that shop rite is always filling there shelfs all nite and day. You could sleep on the shelfs in some other stores they are so lightly stocked. And I have found that if they dont have a sale item in stock they will sub something for it. alotta times the sub is even a better deal. But you may have to ask a clerk to do it for you. Im really surprised no one here worked there as a kid. When I was in my teens( along time ago) every kid seemed to work there at some point.
Wakefern Food corporation is the warehousing and distribution...company...that is owned and invested in by all ShopRite supermarket owners...the owners get the use of the ShopRite trademark...and get to stock ShopRite products in their stores...it is a very good system...Thomas and Vincenzia Romano...opened their store in Netcong NJ...in 1927...they operated as an independent store for many years...they joined Wakefern Food Corporation in 1954...after that they used the ShopRite...name on their grocery store...the rest is history...heres another old ShopRite ad
I have been told wakefern is the largest and longest running co op in usa history. I know for sure its a co op but not sure about the largest longest running. Yrs ago dated a girl at centenary college who told me this. She had a class that went into how co ops work and she told me,but she told me alot of things Im not sure about . The live stock auction market on stiger str. is also a co op.Spent many a tuesday there as a kid loading and unloading pigs cows and chickens for a cpl bucks a truck. I have been told Earny and Al have both passed. Took my kids there to see the cows and I see the catwalk is closed. The catwalk was fun as a kid.
I have a question...if the co-op is about buying in bulk and buying better quality food then why is the meat at Shop Rite in Mansfield constantly in question in my home and by others that I know. Plan and simple its not fresh, it spoils quick and is just not good. Is this just me or are others in agreement with this.
I don't know about spoiled meat, Steve-O...but yesterday Shop Rite had London Broils on sale at 40% off and I bought two ( this should be on how to save money thread!) and plan to make one tonight for dinner. I will let you know. But, I shop both Weis and Shop Rite and have never....never, had spoiled meat at either place.
Steve-o...did you ever think that meat is a perishable...product...how do you handle the meat after you purchase it...meat and every other perishable needs constant refrigeration...ok lets blame it on ShopRite... wrong again...ShopRite has very high quality standards...they do not sell rotten meat...try again with another cheap shot
Old man are you paid to market Shop Rite as the best place on earth?? People are allowed to have their opinions and you make it seem that people who have worked there or who have had a bad experience are to be discredited and that only you are right. Even if people bash Shop Rite on here, it is not going to stop others from shopping there. It is great that you are a loyal customer/worker/whatever you are, but stop making it seem like everyone else is lying about their experience with Shop Rite!!!
opinions are one thing...Outright Lies and false allegations are quite another...and no I am not Mr ShopRite...but I refuse...to see such distortions and falsehoods perpetuated on this thread...especially against a local business...that employs many local residents and pays taxes...and contributes to charities...you might want to take that into consideration...before you...either spread more Lies...or make any more false allegations...not to mention...how many people here have tried to throw the reputation of ShopRite Supermarkets into the gutter...
My experience has been, never got bad meat at Shop Rite. I do wish they would cut their steaks a little thinner though. I hate when they're on sale and each steak weighs about a pound or more. Not sure if that's just Mansfield or not.
Here's a good article on use by/sell by dates..They are usually marketing tools to get you to buy more food..(So all that shoprite food is really not made out of rotten expired food) http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/opinion/index.ssf/2012/01/editorial_expiration_dates_on.html
Jan '12
OK. everyone..had my London Broil this evening for dinner from Shop Rite. (40% off price) I marinated it overnight and cooked it on the grill and it was delicious...and the good part...I got a bargain for my money spent this week on groceries at ShopRite of Mansfield...No..I do not work for Shop Rite either!!!
Bessie - If you ask them, they'll cut it any way you'd like. Most of those London Broil are cut that way given how they're going to be cooked. But getting them the thickness you want is just a bell ring away. ;-)
joyful - Me too. I grabbed a package, looked at the price, and thought it was 1976. I just got finished with mine in the crock pot. Not many problems I've had with most meats there so long as the wrapping was done right and that's easy enough to inspect before you buy.
I will have to try that next time GC..we do enjoy a nice T-bone now and then, just not Fred Flinstone big, LOL.
there are very few large meat packing houses left in usa. So you are buying the same meat at most all larger stores. But there is a diff between, prime, choice, select, ect. I would buy meat at which ever store turns it the fastest the bizy store will have the freshest meat and you want a store that has meat cutters other wise yes its older it was cut then sent on the road to the store. yes some butchers trim closer then others, but for the most part all stores are selling the meat from the same plant UMP.
I shop Weis from time to time, depending on what they have on sale, and we have bought meat and seafood that was bad, a few times. Especially the seafood. I continue to buy from Weis, but never will buy meat or seafood again. Have taken it back and got a refund.
aguy...why dont you try Wal-Mart meat...you might want to eat your own shoes...that crap they throw on the shelves...and packaged with salt solution...wow thats tasty...heres a closeup...that looks tasty
There are over 6200 meat/poultry and egg processors that are federally inspected by the USDA. Of course not all of them are large plants but there are plenty to choose from. Yes there is a difference between Prime, Choice, Select, No Roll, Utility Grade etc. Does the everyday shopper check to see the COOL (Country of Origin) labeling? I know that this matters significantly to me. I only buy meat/poultry for my home that comes from the US. I am not saying that our system is infallible, but it is much better then most. Wouldn't you prefer to buy a steak that came from Colorado rather then a foreign country (remember your product has to be shipped from foreign port, then cleared through customs, then on to the receiver and then the store) the clock is ticking here..
Butcher shops are more expensive then your regular grocery store. But it is what they specialize in, I understand that this isn't always convenient but if you develop a relationship with your local butchers, he will more then likely get to know your habits and let you know when things are going on special so you can stock up. Also many butchers do freezer orders so you can pre-order at a good price and have plenty to last for months. You are not only supporting a small business but you are also much more likely to get a fresher product.
Oldman ~ that was disgusting, I hope that you sent a photo of that to the Health Department. Our inspector would be closing our shop down for non-compliance in a minute if he saw that.
Thats how it was on Friday before the snowstorm. Not 1 cart up front, all in the parking lot stalls.
Cj that photo must be photoshopped. As old man has explained time and time again, those types of things do not occur at shop rite . You must be shunned for the lies .
the Flanders Weis could not even make payroll...the ShopRite there is doing very well...PBM...ShopRite is moving into eastern PA...why do you think they opened the huge grocery warehouse in Allentown PA...and thats beside the fact that Wakefern Food Corporation operates the chain of 41 Price Rite supermarkets including Harrisburg and York PA and also Scranton PA
there were 3 ShopRites in the Lehigh Valley...Easton ,Bethlehem and Whitehall...they have all been closed for many years...Giant supermarkets took over the Bethlehem location...there is a PriceRite supermarket in Allentown PA
Right click on Oldman's Walmart meat picture posted one week ago (about January 17, 2012), open the picture in a new tab or window, and ZOOM in on the picture. The date on the package is 11/24/10!!! Without this close look, the implication of Oldman's blog with the picture seems to imply a first read that is that this is the kind of packaged meat occurring NOW at Walmart. Well, 11-24-10 is over 14 months old. However, the implication is that this is something done recently....which, while not explicitly stated, is implicit in the commentary connected to the picture. Plus, how do we know the meat was just off of the Walmart shelf--way back in 11-24-2010??? I do not see any Walmart shelf in the picture which gives accurate evidence that this was not left on someone's kitchen table for a week and not just picked up at Walmart. Oldman in an earlier blog in this thread comments, "....but I refuse...to see such distortions and falsehoods perpetuated on this thread..." While this Oldman posting might not technically be a "distortion", it certainly is not a recent photo. Without a close look at the picture, the posting and small picture would tend to have one believe that this is what is going on at Walmart right now. Regardless, the picture is way out of date and is not proof that this practice is going on at Walmart now. It would have been nice if Oldman indicated that the picture was taken over 14 MONTHS AGO....rather than leave the reader thinking that this is something being done TODAY at Walmart.
I believe Oldman about WalMart meats. YUCK!! And at Weis, stay away from the "fresh" seafood. Well, they call it fresh. DOUBLE YUCK!! BAD STUFF!
My mother loved Shop Rite. Whenever she left to go there we knew it would be hours before she returned. When she died we figured out why. Many people came and said "I always used to see your Mom at ShopRite and she would always stop to say hello and we would have a great conversation". :)
SW1...read it and weep...heres the truth about sprawl mart from the customers... http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110210095710AA1y690
LVMomof Boys....and....I used to be one of the ones standing there chatting with her! I miss her too!
I love Shoprite, always find what I need. Weis sometimes has better prices, but not usually. Weis has limited brands,sizes due to small size of store. Weis parking is better because they don't have as many people shopping there! That should tell you something. Weis is IMO a more civilized shopping experience. If I don't feel well and don't want to fight crowds or am having an impatient day, I will go to Weis. If I want to get everything I need without having to make an extra stop, Shoprite is the place to go.
I love Weis because:
1. Less crowded.
2. Cashiers help you bag even at the self-checkout lane.
3. They just put in a Blockbuster Express vending machine!
4. The hours are convenient. (I'm from PA where our grocery stores were open 24 hours, 365 days a year!)
5. It's closer and easier to get in and out of.
6. Sometimes I like to get an M&M cookie from Panera on my way out.
7. If an item is wrung up incorrectly - you get a second one FREE! I got 4 cases of Snapple that was already on sale for the price of 2.
8. If your coupon doesn't work for any reason - even if you didn't get the correct number, or it was expired - they wring it in for you anyway.
Some suggestions for Weis would be:
1. Clearer pricing labels. (I've been shocked at checkout a couple of times because I misread labels.)
2. Watch the expiration dates!
3. I wish they would do the online ordering like some of the PA locations. You can order online, and for $5 someone puts your order together for you and you select a time to come pick it up. You pull into a special spot, ring a bell, and they bring your order out to you. Absolutely incredible.
Been going to Weis for years and....
1. NEVER bagged for me in self check-out. Just standing around (more then 1 worker) looking around, but doing nothing
2. NEVER rung up a coupon that expired. Looked at it and said "sorry its not good"
3. If item rings up higher price then shelf price, you get THAT item FREE, NOT a second item.
And very, very seldom are they lower in price then ShopRite.
A few times their seafood was bad and meat expired.
mona i was there yesterday, i walked by the seafood section and it stunkkkkkk. it had not so fresh written all over it!!!
they bag for me all the time at the self checkout..I was just in the Flanders shoprite and it smelled like dead fish..not fresh I walked out of the store in disgust!!
Jan '12
SW1...here is what...Redners Markets...out of Berks County PA...did to show the quality of their meats...verses Wal-Mart meats...very effective and to the point...and true... Wal-Mart pork and ground beef they are treated... and preserved with a salt solution...and not cut or freshly packaged at the store...super markets offer trimmed and custom cut meats by meat cutters for the customer...not to mention...specialty cuts like crown roasts... and special orders by the customers...another sprawl mart fail...
Being a Shop Rite shopper, I was wondering if anyone else has the feeling of being overwhelmed in Washington Shop Rite. I really like the store in Mansfield, the workers are very friendly, I know the lay-out of everything and I just like going there to shop. The parking lot is another thing. I feel like I am about to be in accident, if I am driving, or if walking, scared for my life. The only time most slow down is if they want your parking spot. I decided to try the new Washington Shop Rite. The store ok and the parking lot is much nicer. However, I don't understand the checkout. It seems they want you to bag your own order and if you are not quick enough, everything you purchased gets pushed down the conveyer and onto the previously scanned items. The chips and cookies you just picked out are now squashed with the gallon of milk and the soda bottles. They just keep scanning and scanning. They can put an entire order into the bagging area and then while I am bagging, they now keep saying how much the order totals. No help on their part to bag and it has happened numerous times before. I find it stressful and also annoying. The cashiers in Mansfield are polite and do a great job bagging and if your want to bag your own, that is ok but if not, they do it for you. I guess I will continue to deal with the parking lot and stay with Mansfield.
I went to the Shop Rite of Washington twice and was sooooooo overwhelmed. Its just tooooooo big. I shop at the one in Mansfield and thats where I will continue to go.
And Weis if they are having a good sale on something.
LM1, I shop at the Washington SR on a regular basis and I've never had the experience you describe. They always help me bag.
Next time, maybe you can say something. It isn't like a restaurant where they can spit in your food if you complain. :)
No, but they can put your bread and eggs on the bottom with 2 liter soda on top. LOL! NEVER HAPPENED!! I'm just comparing that to spitting in your food. ;)
I can't stand the Mansfield Shoprite. I avoid it if at all possible. I usually go to Flanders. I recently went to Washington. I like the store, but I found their prices a bit higher on some items, particularly, dairy. Seems strange.
It's small, it's cramped, it's old. Doesn't have the appeal of a newer store. Sorry, I know those reasons are superficial, but that's pretty much it. The parking lot is annoying but doesn't really bother me as I usually park far and walk. I feel the same way about the Shoprite in Stirling, near my parents' house. They never go to it, even though it's the closest. That store also could use a huge overhaul.
OMG GC, Tracy would quite likely go into shock - I know the first time I walked in there I saw it was more cramped than the old Washington one and thought I'd just gone into a warehouse that had all the aisles shoved together!
Tracy: I moved here in 2000 from Stirling. I loved that little Shop Rite...small and not modern at all, but very folksy. Where do your parents live?
the Washington Shop Rite and Mansfield Shop Rite...are about the same size...just different layouts...and the Washington store has exposed ceiling beams and skylights...which makes the building seem larger...Washington Shop Rite has a great weekly circular...and also publishes coupons and an ad in the Warren Reporter...they also have the NY Times and other papers on Sunday mornings and even sell lottery tickets...and have a Red Box in the lobby to return videos...they also feature a coin sorting machine... in the lobby ...to get rid of excess change...I do most of my shopping there...and am quite content...they also feature fresh bagels...a must on Sunday mornings...they also follow the Shop Rite circular prices...that are advertised weekly...on the ShopRite website
Weis Market is moving into the old A&P store in Flanders which is ironic since they moved out of the store where Shop Rite is now located. Apparently they feel being across the street will have more visability. They also plan to remodel the three stores in NJ including the store in Mansfield. A&P plans to remodel their store located on Naughright and make it smaller using the left over space for storage.
I'm disappointed because I was hoping a different store would be moving into the area such as a Wegmans. But it's not to be.
Feb '12
cbel, my parents are in Basking Ridge. Now they go to Bernardsville (much better since their remodel) or Branchburg or the brand new Shoprite in Somerville.
According to Weis personnel, in a few months Weis is going to announce a new pricing strategy with lower prices. Let's hope it comes to pass.
Aug '12
the "new", "lower price" strategy has already been put in place at Weis markets. anyone notice a big difference. heres a link http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/breaking-news/index.ssf/2012/07/weis_markets_announces_price_f.html
Gave up on SR when the old one on Stiger St. burned. (I was in that store earlier in the day and told an employee that the case with the hot food was shorting out, and they didn't even care.) hmm They had already built the newer store in Mansfield. Granted, the parking on Stiger would never work in this day and age, but the parking in Mansfield is terrible. I went to A & P for a while, but really like Weiss. The employees are terrific, and helpful. Plus I see so many of my friends and neighbors there. Doubt I'll ever go to SR. As for fresh produce, we are so fortunate to have Donaldson's right up the street, and all winter we have Best's. It's wonderful to shop locally. Just happy we have the choices. (I am only one person and find it cheaper to shop at Weiss. Much quicker too)
Miss fishy...you complain about ShopRite so much...and having not been there since 1986. Really, you miss that small store so much. I find that to be amusing
"Gave up on SR when the old one on Stiger St. burned. (I was in that store earlier in the day and told an employee that the case with the hot food was shorting out, and they didn't even care.) hmm They had already built the newer store in Mansfield."
lol...that store was torched from what i heard.
I was in shoprite and they have done an amazing job in the floral and produce depts.
The flowers were fresh and the dept was beautifully decorated as was the produce dept. When you walk in the store it's nice to see all the flowers. It's a nice welcome to the store.
Just this morning a friend told me she bought fruit in SR and was taking it back today. Seems quite a bit of it was rotten. She bought it on Saturday. Also one pepper was rotten when she cut it open. (it looked fine on the outside)
hobo, you said I complained so much about the SR. As I re read my post I only mentioned the parking.
I did try the "new" SR (1986) and b/c the milk was at one end of the "new larger" store, and the bread at the other end and the narrow isles I decided to go elsewhere. They would def' not miss my business.
I never heard that the old SR was torched. That "little" store was wonderful. Close to home, I could walk with my 3 children, and the staff was so nice. Everyone knew each other. The clerks would remind the customers of the sale items. Just like when I was a kid and we took a wagon to the store and the shopkeeper totaled our order with a pencil and piece of paper. Who said the good ole days were bad?
Life is still good.
Why did she buy rotten fruit yesterday, only to return it today? If the pepper was fine on the outside, how would Shop Rite know it wasn't any good on the inside. These things happen with produce. Come on Lori..you can figure this one out, can't you?
I agree with Bessie. How did the fruit go bad overnight? Things happen.
Why so negitive Miss fishy. I think the place looks great.
I shop at Shoprite , have not been to happy lately with the fruit and selections and some items they no longer carry
ShopRite has been stocking purple peppers never saw them before...and what ShopRite has bad produce...clue us in...
I don't care for Shop Rite because of the Parking and when they have something on sale and it says 4 for $3.00 you HAVE to but 4. at Weis if it is 4 for something and you don't want 4 only 2 you get the 2 for the sale price.It a MUCH more friendly store.(or will be when the renovations are done). Last year I was in SR and asked where the canned hams were and 4 of the employes didn't even know what it was. one said to go up where the SPAM was.Thank goodness there was a costumer that knew what I was talking.I AM FOR WEIS.
With all this ShopRite chatter/gossip on this message board somehow the newly crowned Nation's Largest ShopRite over the border in Brodheadsville, PA was able to open last month without much fanfare here ;-)
http://www.lvb.com/article/20120803/LVB01/120809971/Nation's-largest-ShopRite-opening-in-Brodheadsville#.UFNokY1lQf4
http://www.tnonline.com/2012/jul/25/ribbon-cutting-ceremony-slated-new-kinsleys-shoprite-aug-3
http://www.poconorecord.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20120806/NEWS/208050336
You have to decide what is important. If Mansfield is outdated, what is Netcong??? Flanders is newer but looks the same. A&P Naughright is a really nice looking store, but do the prices have you running away? For some the weekend crowds are too much at Mansfield and "similar" even if not "perfect" prices at Weis have a following where it's an equally nice looking store. There's something for everyone depending on whether you value convenience, price, or looks.
At least no Weis employees are posting here, and using multiple names to try to confuse everyone.
the new Broadheadsville ShopRite replaced a very small outdated store...and Broadheadsville is not just over the border...Weis is currently re-modeling all three stores they have in New Jersey. Anyone hear about the refrigerant leak they had at the Weis in Newton last week.The store had to be evacuated.
I go to Mansfield Shop Rite because it's close and I'm familiar, not my favorite store though. Shop Rite was pretty empty last night when I was there. Saturday and Sunday is pretty busy though.
I love Mansfield Shoprite. I know where everything is and its always clean. Never, ever go there on the weekends. Monday is the best day.
Everyone I know shops at ShopRite. If I do not feel like seeing people I know then I go to Weis. Thats how I make my decisions. Not by price. ha
Sep '12
Tuesday nights in Shoprite you can also own the place. You can walk past 5 aisles in a row and not see a single person in them. It's all about timing.
Bessie - Thanks. I don't buy any meat that isn't on sale, I try to limit that, and buy the lunch meat ends all the time which are 50% off. Breakfast is easy because plain corn flakes or oatmeal is only .25 a meal. Dinners I have sandwiches at least once a week, I fill out every meat with rice/pasta/grain, veg/fruit, and what ever else I can including a salad. The mixture isn't nearly as bad as a plain carb diet and plain lettuce is cheap but filling. Where it really kills you is the dressings, which I make my own. I wait until things are not just a sale, but a super sale and then buy for several months.
I do most of my shopping at shoprite because I believe that shoprite has much fresher meats and fresh produce than weis does. I really would prefer to shop at weis because I love the layout/parking and find it much easier to get in and out of.
If you are at shoprite by 8:30 or so on Tuesday,, the place is empty. You can park right by the store and be in and out in a jiffy.
Agreed as there isn't enough volume of customers for consistent turnover. I recently frequented the Pathmarks on Rt 46 in Parsippany and Landing off exit 28 on Rt 80. Was totally turned off by these places selling chicken legs/thighs that were two days expired and in the bakery section that was two days expired as well. Everything in the refrigerated section in Landing as far as cardboard was warped meaning there was a major thaw followed by a refreeze in their freezers. No thanks!!!
A& P is also a joke especially at the one in Belvidere....
Oct '14
I wonder if anyone besides me reports out of date products - starting with store manager and if it continues - the local health department --- my calls sure got a stop and shop in Ringwood to police their dairy products
Went to shoprite for a couple of apple turnovers 20 minutes before closing time. And asked. If it was too late to get two turnovers and the young lady scowled and put them in a bag and then actually threw the package on the top of the counter and took off. That would have never happened at weis...That was my last visit to Shop rite..
+1 Just Me!!! While I detest ShopRite, at least they don't make a habit of selling rotten/expired food.
I agree Natalie. I've had more than one experience with Weis. I got tired of paying more money then I would at Shop Rite for something that is/was expired,
Apr '15
Make sure you check your expiration dates at ShopRite too! I was there a couple weeks ago for Edys ice cream and found the Rocky Road to be more than a year expired. Yes, a year! Pulled a bunch off the shelf and handed it to the store manager. He gave me two $1 coupons as a thank you. A week later found more expired Edys Rocky Road but at least this time is was just by a few days.
I am a huge fan of Weis and have been going to Weis for a long time. On that note they do have a horrible habit of having expired merchandise on the shelves. Last Sunday I was there and got a 6 pack of Dr. Pepper. I went home and had a sip out of a bottle and noticed it was flat and tasted weird. Well that is because it expired November 2014. Went back to Weis the next day and told the customer service. The girl was super nice, apologized, and said this never happens (I know that isn't true), and I could do an even exchange. I went, grabbed a 6 pack, made the switch and left (I couldn't stay long because my husband and newborn were in the car and my newborn was hysterically crying). Lo and behold I should have checked the expiration date. I didn't think I would have to do it AGAIN! Got home and noticed it was expired from January 2014. I refuse to drive back a 3rd time to return another 6 pack of soda. It was my fault for not checking again, but they seriously need to get their act together with this expired stuff. It's happened to me on multiple occasions.
It's kind of weird that you were exchanging expired merchandise and didn't even think to look at the expiration date of the replacement you pulled off the shelf. (-;
sunshinenj - just save it and take it back the next time you go shopping. Doesn't have to be right away. Found expired foods and candies at Walgreens, Party City, Walmart, SRite and Weis over the years. Now I check every time, no matter where.
Weis very very often has expired dates on things and often in the Dairy Department. Over the years I have hand carried the stuff to customer service and let them know to check the area (whatever area it might be) for expired dates. They always say they will ... but whether they do or not I have no idea. Actually and honestly I never find or have brought home expired items from the Mansfield Shoprite. I sometimes have occasion to shop in the Weis Market near the Sullivan Trail in Pa. I think it's actually in Easton across from the Air Park. I have Never seen an expired item in that Weis Market, and it is super clean.
Weis, all the way. Friendly, clean and not overwhelming.
Won't shop anywhere else (except picking up Lettuce Shreds at Target).
The layout and vastness of the ShopRite makes me crazy, also too many people, too many carts.
Weiss may have a clean store but bought fish there one time from the fresh fish counter. The kid behind the counter never put on plastic gloves that were right behind him. Went to the manager and said they would speak to him and went back to the fish dept to get me a different piece of fish, came back and gave me the same package, never got me a new piece. I put the fish on the counter and left the store. Will never do my shopping there. Plus Weiss is more expensive than Shop Rite and just like someone said earlier, if the situation was reversed and more people shopped at Weiss you'd all be complaining about how crowded Weiss was.
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