Really? Selling alcohol!
REALLY? Lets do a legal business in a restaurant people. This was taken from HPD FB page.
Press Release (4/10/12): Illegal Alcohol Sales Arrest, Disorderly Conduct And A Motorcycle Vs. Car Crash
On 4/9/12 at approx 8:48PM the Hackettstown Police Dept responded to the Panaderia Guatemala Restaurant (133 Main St) in reference to a report of illegal alcohol sales. When officers arrived on scene they observed three open alcoholic beverages. Through an investigation it was determined that 27yro Sandra Orellana-Morales of Independence Twp, NJ and 39yro Mercedes Lopez-Morales of Hackettstown, NJ were selling alcoholic beverages for $3.50. The business owner 33yro Donatilio Romero-Lopez of Independence Twp, NJ was storing the alcohol in the refrigerator area for future sale and distribution. Sandra and Mercedes were charged with sale/distribute an alcoholic beverage. Donatillo was charged with storing alcoholic beverages for sale/distribution. The Property Manager 31yro Roberto De Jesus Romero-Perez of Hackettstown, NJ was charged with aided & abetting sale/distribution of alcoholic beverages. The U.S. Immigration & Customs Enforcement put detainers on Roberto De Jesus Romero-Perez, Mercedes Lopez-Morales and Sandra Orellana-Morales for investigation purposes and possible deportation. All three were then transported to the Warren County Correctional Facility. Donatillo was released pending a court appearance.
Christine Real smart, especially if they turn out to be illegal aliens. Unfortunately, this isn't the first Main Street business to do this and getting caught. SMH.
Calico696 I was going to ask if this was 'old news' as it sounds very familiar. I swear, even the names sound the same (ethnic jokesaside, I'm being serious)...
Lori...since '73 I am all for running a business whether you are American or not BUT do it legally. SMH in awe........IMO the business should be shut down permanently.
Metsman I think it's funny that when Mama's was cited for selling alcohol without a liquor license Christine said that if another restaurant did that she wouldn't bash them, but now she is here calling for a different restaurant to be shut down.
Both places were cited for the same thing.
http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/warren-county/express-times/index.ssf/2011/02/mamas_pizza_in_hackettstown_ci.html
""If some other restaurant did the same thing everyone on this forum would be bashing that restaurant" ? This is an assumption of what other people would do. BIG DIFFERENCE! I explained what I would do if another restaurant did the same so his assumption is not true." - Christine, March 2011
bemo12People - please get this straight: The alcohol sales were not "ILLEGAL" they were merely "UNDOCUMENTED".... they did not have the proper paperwork.
(Sorry, I couldn't help myself) :)
hjc I understand the headline on the article regarding Mamas reads differently than what is said in the body of the article. I realize the owner was quoted in the body. Apparently I ate at Mamas during the time that wine was served and it was a complimentary glass of wine with never any mention of payment for the glass of wine. That was My personal experience. The following is from the body of the noted article:
Thomas Schiano said Mama's and several other Hackettstown establishments were "told it was OK" to serve complimentary wines. He said the restaurant had offered a glass of wine to waiting patrons as a courtesy for "a few months."
I understand from the OP's post that was taken from HPD FB page; Panaderia Guatemala Restaurant was reported as selling alcoholic beverages for $3.50.
MrsPipes They were both charged with the same thing:
"cited earlier this month for allegedly selling alcohol without a liquor license"
"An office spokeswoman said today the Division of Alcoholic Beverage Control issued fourth-degree crime citations Feb. 17 at Mama's Pizza & Cafe Baci, 260 Mountain Ave"
bemo12; I understand, I clearly understand, what you said. I clearly understand what I read in the cited article. I cited my own personal experience of being offered a complementary glass of wine. I did not pay for my glass of wine.
WOW im shocked that they actually called immagration! Its about time HPD! How many times do you read about hispanics in the police blotter? I bet over half of them are illegal, but for some reason no one wants to take the time and fill out the paperwork to get immagration in here to take them away. Im sick of not being able to walk down Main St. without having to be stared at and have comments mummbled about me. What happened to the good old Htown we all grew up loving?? I cant even tell what half of the buisnesses on Main St. are anymore. If HPD keeps up the work with making sure that these hispanics are legal, and arresting them if they arent, this town will be a better place.
Main Street needs to be cleaned up. This is a good step. I don't equate this to Mama's, because they gave out wine and are aces in customer service and community wise. They do a lot for this area.
If you can name one thing that this so called restaurant has given back to the community, let me know. Are they even paying taxes? How do all these places open up? I know upstanding citizens that can't open legit businesses.
Don't take it out on Christine. Take it out on how the town has taken a back seat to the slow destruction of Main Street's reputation the last few years.
LivinginHackettstown crankypants - a bit paranoid are you? "comments mumbled about me". Really?
You understand what they are saying??
botheredbyu botheredbyu,
Typical comment from someone who deems themself to be "mumble worthy". Or in this case mummble worthy, LOL
Someone has high self esteem, or self high importance, SMH
Well while i walk up to them are are having a normal toned conversation with one another, stop, and then lower their tone while staring at me and laughing? I guess i just assumed by their body language alone that they are talking about me. And yes, i do understand some spanish, enough to know they called me a degrading name. I do not consider myself any better than the next person. But I do consider myself to have enough manners that I would not talk about someone I don't know as they walk past me in a public place place, and I expect the same from others in return. But of course on this forum I would become the bad guy because I expect to be able to walk down the street in peace, geez stupid me.
Talking about them behind there backs on a public forum is that a oxi moreon ?
I wounder did they serve some ICE with the drinks ?
Caged Animal CA,
I've posted my pic several times on the forum. I do not hide, nor do I sugar-coat what I have to say. You all know that. I'm speaking directly to someone here, so not sure how you came up with OXYMORON, as that's what I translate your typing to say
Lori,
It is an oxymoron to talk behind someone's back on a public forum because anyone can read it, even the subject at hand.
MB Talking behind someone's back on a public forum is an Oxymoron? No.
Hypocritical? Yes.
3wbdwnj 3wb,
Thanks for the clarification. I didn't say it wasn't hypocritical, LOL, I just said that it wasn't an oxymoron :)
But still, how is it behind someone's back? Via the forum I am speaking right to her. And I'd say it to her if we were face to face. No problem with that...
livinginhackettstown said I know upstanding citizens that can't open legit businesses.
Please elaborate. I think there are vacant store fronts that can be rented for their business
CBGB Crankypants + LivingInHackettstown,
I think Main Street is just fine the way it is. If you hate it so much, move somewhere else, don't expect it to be "cleaned up".
There are always large crowds standing outside of the Quik Chek and they are of all different races and you know what I do? I walk right past them and they have never given me a problem.
There is a clear cut problem here and it's called xenophobia. Grow up.
Lori, FWIW - "So instead of talking about them in front of them, you talk about them behind their backs on a public forum." - is sort of an oxymoron. Based on the fact that you can't talk a) behind a person's back, while b) in public.
A little weak IMO, but I think that's what was meant.
Aquarius Isn't Panaderia Guatemala Restaurant - BYOB?
I seem to recall bringing a bottle of wine,
or maybe it was the turkish place.
MikeL I guess the restaurant owner isn't aware of byob. I wonder if BID visits these new places and gives any business tips.
maja I really dont think this restaurant did anything that put our safety at risk. They sold some drinks w/o proper permits and got caught. The system worked, we should be happy to see our police working to prevent this. There is no need to dislike each other over it or even the people selling the drinks. We are a land of laws, not people, so how we feel about a situation really doesnt matter. Im just glad to see the stores open on main st. I dont much care if I can read the signs in the windows. If Im unable to read them I just figure I need more schooling.
aguy oh! oh! and now there are illegal aliens living in Independence?
the westward migration continues, wonder what will happen when they get to White Twp and Oxford
and HJC is right, these are not 'illegal alcohol sales', they are just 'undocumented alcohol sales', can't we give them a break? they are just trying to make a better life for themselves, who cares about law and order?
BrotherDog 
Clyde Potts Hey Potts - you wanna go get a cerveza for your birthday? I know a great Guatemalan place.
"I don't equate this to Mama's, because they gave out wine and are aces in customer service and community wise. They do a lot for this area. "
So how much community service does one have to provide before they are allowed to break the law?
ABC regulations actually regulate how much alcohol a licensed business can provide. To say that a non-licensed business could do that without any regulation is illogical. If the alcohol was truly free, then I should be able to walk into Mama's, get my free glass, and walk out. If only paying patrons are provided alcohol, then the implication is that the alcohol is part of your paid dining experience; just because it's not itemized on the bill doesn't mean there isn't a charge. Bread is complimentary but the costs of the entrees covers that cost too.
If a business could serve "complimentary" alcohol without a license, then what incentive does a restaurant have for obtaining one? I'm sure you could make a killing if you opened up a burger joint and provided a free beer with each entree.
Both restaurants violated the law. The only differences were that one was overt in charging and the other had an entire town rally in support of them.
emaxxman Bemo12, so your one of those people who figures that If someone has an opinion other than your own, than they are wrong? Thats the kind of atitude forums need :)
And aside from that your view is that if i think something is wrong, i should walk away from it other than voice my opinion on trying to fix it. Thats a very weak outlook, and you probibly won't get very much change by walking away from everything. I did not say the hispanics were bad people. I said that this town would be a better place if the ones that were here illegally were deported. There is no doubt that there are dragging this town and society down in every asspect. They are not paying taxes, and are taking jobs from other legal tax paying and law abiding citizens. Just like the original topic of this forum states, they were illegally selling alcohol for profit. They were showing no respect for the laws, but then we have people like Bemo, and others on here saying that none of the hispanics were doing anything wrong and we should leave them alone because anyone that says anything about them is labeled a "racist". That is so far from the truth. Read the police blotter every week and tell me how many names are hispanic, then come back and say they never cause any problems around this town.
WOW go away for a few hours and look what happens!
Giving a complimentary glass of wine while you wait at Mama's is totally different then selling a bottle of beer for $3.50 at this restaurant IMO. How do you think they know that? Do you think they might have asked the patrons drinking the beer? Really can we give HPD a little credit. WOW just WOW!!
I am not sure if I should be worried or honored that bemo12 remembered what I wrote in the Mama's thread. Shall we say stalker?
Another question I have is why were they arrested then? They went and took them to County jail. No one from Mama's was arrested on site. Totally different circumstances. It may be the same infraction according to the ABC Regulation but it was different curcumstances. Now if the patrons said they got a compimentary bottle of wine I would be saying the same thing. Being a Latino restaurant has nothing to do with the issue at all IMO!
I'll be honest, I read the police blotter all the time and I think there are problems in town, but they definitely don't belong to one group of people. Is anyone keeping count?
Bessie Loophole (read last sentence) - is this what Mama's is doing? "The other effect of New Jersey's licensing system is a prevalence of BYOB restaurants, wherein diners can bring their own beer or wine to a restaurant without a liquor license, insofar as there is no municipal prohibition against it.[7][8] A restaurant in New Jersey without a liquor license can sell wine from a New Jersey winery with the permission of the winery and municipality".
Source: Wikipedia - Liquor Laws of new Jersey
Bessie - If anyone was keeping count, they would have said the same thing you did.
crankypants - It sounds like you've convicted them of a lot more than what they were arrested for. And even that supposedly you're innocent until proven guilty. It's also not how Immigration works, the police do not call them in. They review any case they want and come in without being call - and what's been done is to impose a detainer.
LIH - Yes their taxes, including the BID assessment is paid.
If anyone wants to compare forgiving anything because of community service, then check Bensonhurst when John Gotti lived there. To some extent I do understand actually selling liquor out right vs. skirting the law by saying you're giving it away free. One is outright wrong, the other is wrong but attempting to be clever. You would think any reasonable business person would totally avoid the liability implications no matter which way you look at it.
aguy - I think you said one of the most reasonable descriptions of the situation. It's a simple legal matter. They were arrested for breaking the law, try them, and let the justice system take it's course. Politics and hidden agendas don't help anyone.
GC Mamma's had a whole town rally behind them because they do give back to the community, they treat every customer so well, and most people would consider them a asset to Hackettstown. It Doesn't make them above the law, but certainly explains why people who live here would want to come to their defense.
Crankypants, you certainly are not alone, Iv'e heard similar complaints from many women.
Denis Regarding ICE, as long as you're not a citizen, they can be called and you can be deported for breaking the law. It has nothing to do with whether you're here legally or not.
HJC - That has to be one of the craziest loopholes that I've ever seen. Obviously a winery owner had a few friends in the restaurant business and government.
Went to Mamas once, with family from out of town. Found it over priced and average food, at best. Initentive waitress. So I dont see the whole "hoopla" about the place.
They broke the law, just like the other place. No special treatment is deserved. JMO!
If I was thinking of moving here again like I was 19 yrs ago and I drove through HTown and saw what it looked like now and who was hanging out on the streets. I would not move here or buy a home. I am not a racist or bigot it is my preference.
Do you not think or care that a local town appearance has an impact on home values?
Annoyed....anyone who states the obvious and the truth shouldn't need to worry about being perceived as a racist or bigot. IMO You're observations are 100% correct.
LivinginHackettstown
"this so called restaurant has given back to the community, let me know. Are they even paying taxes? How do all these places open up?"
If you were being racist please clarlify what you mean by "these places", and "so called restaurant"
I would love to see how you are going to explain your comments without being racist?
boohoo How I know this thread is racially charged?
@LivinginHackettstown: "I don't equate this to Mama's, because they gave out wine and are aces in customer service and community wise."
That justifies them breaking the law? This is classic selective judgement. You ought to be ashamed. Just because the business busted wasn't necessarily a staple of your community circle, it is others.
@Annoyed: "I would not move here or buy a home. I am not a racist or bigot it is my preference."
Yes, that does make you a bigot. Just because someone's skin is darker means the town doesn't meet your standards? Nice. I also love when a white man is arrested for doing something stupid, this thread doesn't even make mention of his skin color.
Thank you to the others on this thread speaking up for our latino friends that aren't doing anything illegal.
theHHSinformant 
Lets see......I truely hate and despise people that label other people "racist". Guess that makes me a racist. So I guess I should begin to hate myself! No, I'll just turn my home into a coffeehouse and serve free drinks!
John C I am a bit insulted. And cranky pants- everyone , regardless of color or race or language etc . Can and will whistle at you, make comments and mutter under their breath. I have had that happen to me many times in this town for the 15 years I've lived here , by people of all color. I am half Latino and if I walk down main street, does that mean people automatically think I'm illegal? Well this forum thinks so... I am ashamed that people automatically assume that this town is going downhill due to the Hispanics in town.
@Supposedhtownscu - Exactly. Also according to their logic, thanks to your very presence, their property values have diminished. Do you see what you've caused by moving here?
Land of opportunity, a melting pot?
they were taken to the Warren County Jail for housing since there was a Detainer put on them for possible deportation
One was released pending a court date.
CJ. I could make the argument that the ethnically owner stores on Main St are probably the ones keeping Main St afloat. How many different pet stores/antiques stores/barber shops do we need in an 8 block strip? How much revenue to the town is a vacuum repair store really bringing in?
HHS informrant and - Supposedhtownscu FYI i dont believe i said anything about people with dark skin. Did I? or did you infer that? maybe you are the raciists.
Again, based on what i see in this town and what i read on FB-police page I would not move here. I am entirely entitled to my opinion.
Beach comber I can tell you have not been any one of those stores boohoo. Take a walk in all of them and then come back and make that statement.
I am soooo sorry I started this thread........Forgive me!
How can you tell I have not been in any of those stores?
i've been to all the stores i mentioned except the vaccuum store ( i can't see anyone going into that store)
"If I was thinking of moving here again like I was 19 yrs ago and I drove through HTown and saw what it looked like now and who was hanging out on the streets. I would not move here or buy a home. I am not a racist or bigot it is my preference.
Do you not think or care that a local town appearance has an impact on home values?"
And what exactly would be your solution to bringing Hackettstown back to a "local town appearance"?
Annoyed,
No you didn't but you weren't talking about dark skin, but as you say, Hispanics. Not all hispanics are not dark skinned.
Are dark skinned ** of course you are entitled to your opinion and so am I. I'm only discussing my perspective.
boohoo, somehow that vacuum store has been around as long as I can remember, so clearly they must be doing something right. Annoyed I moved here the around the same time you did. Main st. has has gone down hill drastically since then. I too would keep driving if I was looking for a place to raise my family again. On the bright side, if I ever decide to sell my gold, or need a check cashed I don't have to drive far.
Denis - good points about the check cashing and "we buy gold" joints. Maybe the others are waiting for the Bail Bonds signs and Pawn Shops to move in??? The other thing I would add in response to Bemo12's question is to clean up the very poorly maintained and sloppy houses east of 46 on Main. I DON'T KNOW NOR DO I CARE THE RACE OF THE PEOPLE WHO OWN THEM IT'S DISGUSTING.
To all you people who think Hackettstown is a garden paradise and is getting better every day maybe I should apologize. Maybe you all have never seen or lived in a place that was any nicer than Hackettstown. If that's the case then I completely understand your perspective.
Have a great day! :)
I am a bit insulted. And cranky pants- everyone , regardless of color or race or language etc . Can and will whistle at you, make comments and mutter under their breath. I have had that happen to me many times in this town for the 15 years I've lived here , by people of all color. I am half Latino and if I walk down main street, does that mean people automatically think I'm illegal? Well this forum thinks so... I am ashamed that people automatically assume that this town is going downhill due to the Hispanics in town.
I have nothing against race but i am from another area and how many hispanic taxi services have been arrested in Hackettstown for not obeying the laws ?? You got it countless. Not paying insurance, undercutting other businesses on prices , not having the proper paperwork, etc. etc.. I know for a fact these taxis are harboring illegal immigrants. I see them swarm around the walmart and shop rite. They cater to people here who mostly came to this country in the last few years and do not have cars. No one can convince me otherwise because i know what is going on. I wish law enforcement had the balls to put an end to all this craziness.
I've been to Basking Ridge, Chester, Mendham, Bernardsville , etc. You know what they don't have. An Army Recruiting Center on their main st. You want to clean up H'town and improve main st start with the one store that brings in No $ to the town
Darwin boohoo, OK so when was the last time you were at the stores? the vacuum store not only sells vacuums, we have one antique store and one pet store. Would you rather see empty storefronts? WOW! If you are going to talk about how main street has gone downhill at least know what you are talking about.
Unique stores like the recruiting location and especially the Vacuum Store are exactly what we need. People travel a distance from their own town's Main St because they don't have a vacuum repair shop anywhere else. This guy( very nice guy BTW) most likely could operate out of a "non" Main St location but doesn't. He draws customers to other stores as well as his own.
Firefly I say blight the whole area, reroute, 46 and bring in inverstes and make it an outdoor mall with a main street feeling like they are doing in other small towns with the same problem as hackettstown.
Most towns lost stores to big box stores building outside of small towns where land is avaliable.
FF - I 2nd your observations. Also - what kind of a person would have a problem with a recruiting station???
Christine,
maybe you should do some research before you speak. 1 pet store and 1 antique store in town? really? According to my eyes and the Hackettstown BID website there are 3 antique stores on Main St and 1 on W Moore St. And there are 3 pet stores on Main st. Maybe you should walk down Main St some more...(just be careful of all the non white people)
And i have no problem with a recruiting center in town, i was just pointing out if you people want to clean up your town to look more like Chester, BR, Mendham they don't have a recruitment center. In fact most upper class towns don't. Recruitment centers are put in rural, lower class towns
"Recruitment centers are put in rural, lower class towns"
this true, the rich and privileged don't have to go to war, that's a job they are just not prepared to do!
I guess the vacuum store guy is doing well. I feel like vacuums are relatively disposable pieces of machinery where if its broken, I'd just trash it and buy a new one ... Or maybe fix it once and if it breaks again, trash it for a better one with good reviews.
I agree with CJ. Htown needs to hire civil engineers to re-route so that Main Street is a pleasant place to be and not just a pass through for heavy vehicle traffic. It needs to be a place where outdoor seating is a possibility without the worry of inhaling truck fumes. Has anyone ever been to Charlottesville, VA and hung out in the downtown mall? It's one of my favorite places. I'd quite frankly be A-OK with Main Street being a pedestrian only place and traffic rerouted. I generally avoid Main Street vehicle traffic anyways because I can usually get to where I'm going by other routes. With proper signage, Hackettstown can achieve this re-routing option. Sure it might be annoying for some at first who only know how to navigate via Main Street, but those who are out-of-towners won't notice the difference.
Computer Sharp There are 100+ year old buildings on Main St. Kind of hard to make things look like a more modern area like in VA.
Not a big fan of a recruitment centers. Went to speak to the Navy Recruiter out by Washington/Pburg wherever it was when I was about to graduate High School and he refused to give me any information unless I gave him personal information (phone number, home address). I just wanted to explain to him my goals and skills and have him inform me what my career in the Navy might look like. I wasn't looking for him to call me and contact me to beg me to join like they've done with my friends.
Boohoo, really? What 3 pet stores? Because my EYES see one pet store. Its called Hackettstown Pet. I see another dog grooming store called Doggies Styleash. There is oanother pet grooming in the mini mall. Guess you dont frequent them often huh? Antiques, lets see I see one and its called Family Attic. Acroos the pond is really not on Main St. Did you know its a known fact that people who like Antiques like to go to an area that has alot of those kind of stores? The Treasure Trove Boutique does not carry all antiques and Restyle Boutique sometimes has antiques which is why they are listed on the BID website under antiques. See if you actually were in those stores you would know that.
Sorry but I would rather see a store full and doing well then an empty storefront.
C# - Give me your current address. I say that because it's exactly where the new traffic pattern will be rerouted to. And the cost - I hope you didn't plan on retiring any time soon because you'll be paying a few hundred million for that exercise starting with the $1mill traffic study we're putting on your credit card. But not to worry, Route 46 is federal, which means you're going to be waiting a few decades before anyone even responds to your request. Not to mention looking at what actually happens when you take away all the traffic, you take away the patrons. Would all the traffic to Centenary now have to go through Washington St via Bell's Lane?? Will you be sending them around Stiger St to go through Beatty? You're going to have a huge number of torches and pitch forks at your door when the reality sinks in to the neighborhoods. Not to mention you're saying you really don't go through town any way. That means you're talking about "heavy trucks" without having sat at Harpers, Stella G's, Brisas, Hackettstown Sandwhich Shoppe, or Marleys that offers outdoor seating. Do that and maybe your credit card bill for the bypass won't be so big. ;-)
Christine
How come when I click on your name it takes me to Second Time Around in washington's website? Wasn't that store in hackettstown before it moved to washington? So tell me again how you would like to see businesses full on main st instead of empty store fronts. You're either an owner of a store that moved out of our town or at the very least a supporter of a store that leaves us. Kind of hypocrite (not spelled right I'm sure but I'm on my blackberry). No?
And yes since my dog died 3yrs ago I haven't had the need to visit a pet store in town. You got me
Darwin yes I own Second Time Around in Washington formerly of Hackettstown. HOWEVER I do live and pay taxes in Hackettstown and would never want to see an empty storefront. I left Hackettstown for a bigger and better store in Washington for less rent. Thanks for asking. Stop and say hi sometime! I love meeting HL posters.
I couldn't find a more appropriate thread so I'll stick it here (yes, I know this isn't technically an illegal *immigration* thread but I didn't want to start a new one.)
As I've said before, the fight against illegal immigration is futile if you start with the immigrants. The fight should be against the opportunities that they come here for. Remove the opportunities and they will not come.
http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/23/11356986-mexican-immigration-to-us-at-a-standstill-report-says?lite
yes emaxx, agreed , we need to go after the employers who are breakng the law by hiring illegals under the table
here's another artcle:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/04/historic-wave-of-mexican-migration-comes-to-a-standstill-report-says.html?track=icymi
quoted from the story:
The number of Mexican migrants to the United States dropped significantly while the number of those returning home increased, bringing net migration from Mexico to a statistical standstill, according to a report published Monday.
The shift over the last several years marks a significant change after four decades of historic immigration from Mexico, according to the report by the Pew Hispanic Center.
“The largest wave of immigration in history from a single country to the United States has come to a standstill,” the report says.
I just got this email... did Mama's get a liquor license? Or, is there some kind of provision for local wineries that their wines may be sold without a license?
Mama’s Now Features Wine
from Old York Cellars
Reds, Whites & Blush
Cabernet Sauvignon, Malbec, Merlot
Chardonnay, Pinot Gris, Chenin Blanc, Blush & Sangria
Full & Half Bottles
Available while dining in or when taking out
Of course, we remain happy to assist you when you BYOB.
ianimal Its legit. They have been having wine tasting there recently. We went there for lunch about a month or so ago. There was a wine tasting table set up.
ianimal - If they had a license, they could sell beer, wine, and other liquor as well which they don't. No license of that class is available. Instead its a change in the liquor law in 2013. It's called something like "display-and-sell" where wineries are allowed to contract with restaurants to lease a space as an outlet. It requires ABC approval, but is not limited by town population like the general license is.
Thanks... I figured it was something like that. Hopefully, it's a mutually beneficial arrangement for two local businesses.
ianimal - That's the intent of the law. Make it so two businesses inside NJ have the incentive to collaborate but still have enough limits on the approval so as not to upset existing liquor law. Should be win-win.
Blackcat The State should expand the law to include breweries like Manskirt, who aren't licensed to sell food, so that nearby restaurants and the breweries can engage in the same sort of symbiotic relationship afforded to wineries.
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